螺旋 - 為什麼在古代世界隨處可見？
SPIRALS, everywhere in the ancient world why？
Topic started on 23-4-2010 @ 04:22 AM by King Loki
Spirals appear throughout the world, in widely separate places and from very early on, and most often in contexts that suggest a religious meaning of type or is it something completely different. 螺旋從很早期出現在世界各地廣泛的不同地方，和在最經常的情況下，提出一類型的宗教意味，或者是完全不同的某些東西。
the Egyptologist Erik Hornung discusses the two conceptions of time expressed by the words “neheh” and “djet” which have been variously interpreted as cyclical time versus its linear appearance, or as its dynamic flow compared to its static duration, and as its continuity as opposed to its discontinuity.
埃及古物學家埃里克霍恩，討論以“neheh”和“djet”所表的兩個時間概念，它們已被多方解釋為週期性時間對它的線性外觀，或以其動態的流量相比於其靜態期，並以它的連續性相對它的不連續性。
Similarly there is also the theory that they could very well represent time and how it works by indication of the spiral using the theory that time repeats itself over and over again in smaller and smaller time frames which is also talked about by Terence McKenna and many other people.
亦有類似的理論，它們能很非常佳地代表時間，和它在螺旋的指示如何工作，利用那理論在越來越小的時間框架中，時間重覆自己一遍又一遍，那亦被特倫斯麥克納和許多其他人談及。
Timewave Zero - Novelty Theory - Terence McKenna (1/3)
Timewave Zero - 新穎理論 - 特倫斯麥克納（1 / 3）
西元2008年08月01日
The spiral in Colombian petroglyphs in many cases, may symbolize a shaman, his activities, or other person, in a trance state, or in heavy, serious concentration during a sacred ritual or ceremony. It probably was also used as a practical device at some sites to indicate the time of a winter or summer solstice ceremony incorporating sunrise shadows. When used to represent an animal such as a serpent, or part of an animal, such as the tail of a monkey, the spiral may have indicated a shamanic spirit helper or the shaman himself transformed into that animal. A variation of the spiral motif with "legs" may also be related to shamanistic healing ceremonies and ceremonial activities involving.
螺旋在哥倫比亞岩畫中的許多情況是，可能象徵著一個巫師的活動，或其他人在精神恍惚的狀態，或在一個神聖的儀式或典禮中的沉重、認真的專心。它可能亦被用作一件實用的設備，在一些地點來表示冬至或夏至的儀式並納入日出的陰影。當被用來代表動物例如大蛇，或動物的部分例如猴子的尾巴，螺旋亦可以象徵靈性幫手，或薩滿巫師自己被變成動物。螺旋圖案的一種變化加上“腿”，亦可能與薩滿教的醫治儀式和慶典活動有關。
Also just to note when taking Ayahuasca the main animal of wisdom in that reality is the snake according to shamans.
亦衹注意當以死藤水為智慧的主要動物，根據薩滿巫師那在現實是蛇巫師
Sardinia, Italian island
意大利島嶼撒丁島
The Tarxien in Malta
馬耳他的泰克星
Australia Alice springs and Tasmania
澳洲愛麗斯泉和塔斯馬尼亞
Scotland
蘇格蘭
Norway/Scandinavia
挪威/斯堪的納維亞
France
法國
Greece/Minoan
希臘 /米諾斯
Ireland
愛爾蘭
Africa
非洲
America north/south
美洲北/南
There is many many many more around the world and i can continue to post them from everywhere but i wanna breach another subject about the spirals and thier apparent use in ancient calendars and solstice/equinox markers.Some sites come to mind in regaurds to this such as newgrange and many more but im going to dicuss only 1 because i dont have unlimited time.
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The most famous American "sun spiral" was discovered by Anna Sofaer in 1977 near the entrance of Chaco Canyon at Fajada Butte. It was engraved on the cliff face and then covered over with three large slabs of stone, which were placed so that they combined to produce the now famous 'solar-dagger' of sunlight, which passes through the centre of the spiral each summer-solstice.
The astronomy practiced by Native Americans is impossible to summarize in one explanation, since the tribes had such diverse traditions and legends. The impressive aspect of their astronomy lies in the fact that many of the tribes were hunters and gatherers. This contrasts sharply with the other ancient cultures studied here, which developed the practice of astronomy after becoming equipped with the technology of agriculture.The Anasazi of Chaco Canyon, New Mexico
新墨西哥查科峽谷的阿納薩齊，
The Anasazi were a mysterious people who lived in Arizona and New Mexico about a thousand years ago (apparently). They built high cliff dwellings, the ruins of which remain today. Little is known about their way of life, but several tantalizing clues were left in the form of cave art. A recently discovered site called Penasco Blanco shows a depiction on a cave wall of what must be a supernova explosion (see picture below). The relative orientations of the crescent moon and the star make it very likely that this is a recording of the supernova which created the Crab Nebula in 1054 A.D. This supernova, which would have been about five times brighter than Venus for about three weeks, was also recorded by Chinese astronomers. Another very interesting site is called the Anasazi sun dagger. It is a spiral design traced into a cave wall, and during midsummer, midwinter, and the equinoxes it is perfectly bisected or surrounded by daggers of sunlight which enter the specially placed windows. The Anasazi also built a solar observatory called Hovenweep Castle at Four Corners. All of this evidence points to the fact that the Anasazi were quite experienced sky-watchers, as are their probable descendents, the Pueblo Indians.
all the detailed information about this can be found here http://www.solsticeproject.org/astromark.htm
CROP CIRCLES
麥田怪圈
One of the most Intriguing things about the spirals is the recent wave of crop circles that have sprung up with the exact designs that the ancients use to use. exactly what the implication's of this is ill leave to you.
螺旋其中最發人深省的事情是，最近一波的麥田圈已湧現出確切古人慣用的設計，正確的含義我將留給你。
結論
CONCLUSION
Well everyone will have their own opinion about this subject and you are all entitled to your opinion as no one really knows for sure what the exact deal is with these spirals all over the world are.
對這個主題每個人都會有他們自己的意見，和你們全都有權堅持己見，因為沒有人真正肯定，這些遍布世界的螺旋的正確目的。
To me the spirals may be an indication of a world wide society thousands of years ago or at least some kind of world wide commonly known knowledge that we may have been forgotten in todays society. There is just to may of the exact same things all around the world to rule it out, including the pyramids and the use of massive megalithic stone blocks unable to be even lifted to this day and unable to be cut with the supposed tools they had in their time (if we even have the times right which we may not).
對於我螺旋可能是一個數千年前的，世界性社會的標誌，或至少是某種世界各地所知的常識，但在當今社會我們可能已忘記了。只是有可能確切的同一事物在世界各地排除，包括金字塔和使用甚至在今天不能被舉起的大而重的巨石石塊，及無法以他們的年代想到的工具切斷（如果我們甚至有正確的時代，那我們可能也不會）。
It seems we may never know what actually happened back then, but i assume we all would love to know and maybe one day someone will figure it all out. Untill then folks keep researching and deny ignorance.
ps. if you liked my presentation be on the look out for more that i plan to do in the future including ancient observatory and another about why stones were used to build almost exclusively in ancient times.
pps. as this is my first thread on ats if you have any suggestions that will help me in the future with set out and content please U2U me ... thanks
Also thanks to Kiwifoot from the ATS forums who did give me a little help and inspiration i recommend his threads also.
Information/links/references
信息/鏈接 /引用
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/
http://www.spirasolaris.ca/sbb4g1.html
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/fr/arcnat/megalithes/en/mega/megagavess_en.htm
http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/003769.html
http://rupestreweb.tripod.com/motif.html
http://www.scienceviews.com/indian/suncalendar.html
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