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2009年12月28日星期一

豬流感疫苗正反看法 更新1

波蘭教授論豬流感疫苗 (英文字幕)
Polish Professor about Swine Flu Vaccines part 1 facts & myths

Such reactions were observed with American soldiers who, before the Gulf War, were given different vaccines containing squalene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k ... ure=player_embedded

Polish Professor about Swine Flu Vaccines part 2
...which are simply commercials pretending to be scientific publications about some medicines, vaccines, preparations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n ... ure=player_embedded



Some positive opinion from a certain poster:

I figured since I've been reading all these post on the H1N1 I would post something when I got the shot. Well I got mine a couple days ago and no crazy reactions here. Although if I didn't like the people on this board, I think I would just perpetuate the conspiracy theories about it. This site can get pretty ridiculous sometimes. I find it most funny when these predictions pass and nothing happens. Its like you are in a room and everyone just changes the subject when 5 minutes ago they were running around yelling we are all going to die. The big count down, then nothing happens. Either way, my self and a large group of rather important people all got the shot. Who knows, possibly ours was different. Just kidding, I don't know that. Not for sure at least.


And a response to the above opinion:

We already know there are two different shots. One with all the preservatives and junk and one without.
You got lucky, does that mean someone else will?
No one has said that 100% of those who receive the shots will become ill or die. That is nonsense.
Especially after Baxter was caught shipping a bio-weapon instead of a vaccine to several countries this spring.
I have done enough research on the Federal Reserve, the take over of the food supply and the corruption of our politicians, that I have no trust left in our corrupt Government.


出面論壇有這兩個說法(2009 Nov 12),可作大家參考:
A.
H1N1唔係你地講得咁恐怖...
其實每年季節性流感都會死唔少人,H1N1死亡率亦唔見得高過季節性流感好多
比起當年SARS疫潮一開始時候要對抗一隻連致病病毒都唔清楚既病...冇得比...

H1N1疫苗係趕工研製出來...安全測試未必做得好好,可能呢個都係原因之一
疫苗過敏反應係邊隻疫苗都會有同埋唔係常見
(如果常見根本唔會過到FDA果關新, 事實上大部分新藥都過唔到FDA果關...可想而知測試檢驗有幾嚴格)

B.
師兄你的評論明顯冇睇過前面資料及新聞,而作出不負責任的評論,小弟有幾点需要回應,以免誤導他人:

1.留言的人沒有加鹽加醋,所以我們沒有將事件去誇張形容至有幾...恐怖,正反資料都有在post內提供,由版友自行決定睇法。
2.現在烏克蘭的出血性肺炎和A(H1N1),明顯比沙示勁得多,十多廿日左右,已死去超過二百人,百二萬人染病了,病毒可在接觸後幾小時引致死亡,誰知會不會傳到香港?
3.疫苗製做,並不衹時間問題引致臨床不足,有藥廠Baxter昨日已公開承認污染七十二公疫苗,你要繼續天真下去沒辦法。被懷疑的藥厰有三間,昨日只是有第一間承認藥苗被污染。
4.其它疫苗不會引致流產,但此H1N1疫苗在注射後,已出現多個流產故事,有需要重視及諮詢醫生。
5.你提及FDA,但FDA已公開承認對H1N1疫苗只作最低要求,違反一般做法;而CDC預測,接受H1N1疫苗注射後出現嚴重副作用而致死亡的人數,將達30,000人,比預測受豬流感引致死亡的人數更高,post內前文已有報導,師兄你的說法基礎不攻自破了!

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