French envoy to US: Trump plan ‘very close to what Israel wants, 99% doomed’
Gérard Araud, a former ambassador to Israel, says he's 'very close' with Jared Kushner, whom he describes as 'extremely smart but has no guts'
20 April 2019
France’s outgoing ambassador to the US, Gérard Araud, said US President Donald Trump is uniquely able to “push” Israel on his upcoming peace plan because he is extremely popular among Israelis and they “trust him.”
In an interview with The Atlantic magazine published on Friday, Araud said the White House plan, engineered by Trump’s son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner, will be “very close to what the Israelis want,” and is 99 percent “doomed to fail.”
“But 1 percent, you never forget the 1 percent. Trump is uniquely able to push the Israelis, because he is so popular in Israel,” he said.
Araud, who served as France’s ambassador to Israel from 2003 to 2006, positioned himself as “very close” to Kushner, whom he described as “extremely smart, but he has no guts.” Araud has served as French ambassador to Washington since 2014 and is retiring.
Kushner, Araud claimed, “doesn’t know the history” of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, “and in a sense, it’s good — we are not here to say who is right, who is wrong; we are trying to find a way [toward a solution].”
“So in a sense, I like it, but at the same time he is so rational, and he is so pro-Israeli also, that he may neglect the point that if you offer the Palestinians the choice between surrendering and committing suicide, they may decide the latter. Somebody like Kushner doesn’t understand that,” he asserted.
Araud told the magazine that the White House was counting on three factors when it comes to the peace plan. The first is Trump’s popularity in Israel.
“Trump, he said, is more popular than [Benjamin] Netanyahu in Israel, so the Israelis trust him. That’s the first bet, Kushner told me. The second is that the Palestinians may consider it’s their last chance to get limited sovereignty. And the third element is Kushner is going to pour money on the Palestinians. Don’t forget, the Arabs are behind the Americans. The plan is 50 pages, we were told, very precise; we don’t know what is in the plan. But we’ll see,” he said.
Araud added that “the disproportion of power is such between the two sides that the strongest [Israel] may conclude that they have no interest to make concessions.”
Israel is “extremely comfortable” with the status quo, he said, “because they [can] have the cake and eat it. They have the West Bank, but at the same time they don’t have to make the painful decision about the Palestinians, really making them really, totally stateless or making them citizens of Israel.
“They won’t make them citizens of Israel. So they will have to make it official, which is we know the situation, which is an apartheid. There will be officially an apartheid state. They are in fact already,” he claimed.
The details of the Trump plan have been kept under wraps, but rumors of its content have swirled, particularly on social media.
Last week, Kushner said the plan will not be unveiled until June at the earliest. Kushner told some 100 foreign diplomats the plan will be rolled out after the new Israeli government is sworn in and following the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which ends June 5.
He urged them to keep an “open mind,” according to a source cited by Reuters.
Although little is known about the long-awaited plan, recent reports in the Washington Post and Guardian suggested it would not include full Palestinian statehood.
That is a likely deal-breaker for Palestinians, who were already not cooperating with Trump’s Middle East team following the US president’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital in December 2017 and moving of the US embassy there in May 2018.
On Friday, US Mideast envoy Jason Greenblatt warned both Israel and the Palestinians against rejecting Trump’s peace plan and rejected the use of the term “two-state solution” in an interview released by Sky News Arabic.
There was no reason to use the term because each side understood it differently, Greenblatt said, according to Channel 12 news.
He said both sides needed to be prepared for direct negotiations as each would have to make concessions, and there would be elements of the deal that each side would be satisfied with, and parts each would dislike.
Greenblatt said both sides would miss an opportunity for peace if they did not accept the deal, but he issued a special warning to the Palestinians, noting they had already spoken out against the plan before seeing it, while suggesting that it could have a significant and positive impact on their future.
In his interview with The Atlantic, Araud described Trump’s governing manner as “brutal, a bit primitive,” but said he is “right” in some issues, such as free trade.
“What he’s doing with China should have been done, maybe in a different way, but should have been done before,” he said.
Araud told the magazine that two particular instances during Trump’s presidency thus far shocked the French: the pullout from the Paris climate agreement and from the Iran nuclear deal.
In both cases, according to his account, the French were under the impression that discussions surrounding the issues were going well.
Araud said that before Trump announced the US pullout from the Iran deal, Paris was “negotiating with the administration on an agreement to complement[it]…, on missiles, terrorism, and Iran’s regional activities.”
Araud said Paris and Washington were very close to an agreement, “people say 90 percent.”
“There was absolutely no crisis in the negotiation. And suddenly overnight, everything was over. It was decided overnight; it was decided by Trump. Nobody was warned, and the day after, nobody was able to tell us what it meant for us,” he went on.
He described the White House as “so dysfunctional,” however, adding there’s “only one person who can commit the United States [to an agreement], and it’s Donald Trump.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-envoy-to-us-trump-plan-very-close-to-what-israel-wants-99-doomed/
法國駐華盛頓大使:美國和平計劃偏向以色列人
《大西洋月刊》記者對法國駐華盛頓大使杰拉德·阿爾諾進行了專訪,後者與記者開誠佈公地談論了部分問題,其中最重要的當屬美國政府所兜售的解決巴勒斯坦問題的和平計劃,伊朗核協議,還有敘利亞危機、自由貿易,此外還有世界輿論所關注的其他問題。
這篇採訪的發表,正值阿爾諾在擔任法國駐華盛頓大使5年之後退休之時。
關於中東的和平進程,阿爾諾認為,在人類歷史上的任何雙邊談判中,強大的一方都會將有利於自己的條款強加給弱勢者。
基於這點,法國大使認為,這項由美國總統特朗普的高級顧問、女婿賈里德·庫什納制定的和平計劃,是最接近以色列人的願望的計劃。
阿爾諾被問道:這項計劃失敗了嗎?他坦白地向採訪他的記者亞拉·貝尤米表示,這項計劃99%要失敗。
三大賭注
但是阿爾諾提到,哪怕是1%也不該被忽略。“特朗普能夠單獨對以色列人施壓,他在以色列非常受歡迎”。
貝尤米打斷他說道,特朗普至今沒有對以色列施壓。阿爾諾回答稱,如果有必要的話,他可能會這樣做。
阿爾諾舉例稱,在某個場合中, 美國總統曾向法國總統馬克龍表示,“他已經給以色列人提供了所有東西,他們也應該有所回報。”
阿爾諾認為,美國總統在與人相處的時候總是秉持一種思人思維。他還認為,特朗普在以色列甚至比總理內塔尼亞胡更受歡迎,而且,以色列人信任特朗普。
阿爾諾還提到,負責美國與中東地區的政治關係的庫什納有一次曾透露,特朗普的這些特點,正是在向以色列人施壓過程中的第一大賭注。而第二大賭注則在於,他的和平計劃是給巴勒斯坦人提供的最後一個機會,以獲得“有限的主權”。
根據阿爾諾的說法,美國和平計劃所依賴的第三大賭注在於,庫什納“將向巴勒斯坦人提供資金”,並聲稱阿拉伯人將支持美國人。
阿爾諾透露,這項包括50頁的和平計劃,“非常準確”。他還提到,儘管如此,他也並不掌握這項計劃所包括的細節,他認為,庫什納“極為機智,但是他缺乏足夠的膽量,並且對歷史不夠了解”。
這位退休的法國大使在採訪中坦率地透露了自己的觀點,他認為,美國作為世界警察的作用已經結束了。特朗普是一個“粗魯而稍顯幼稚的人,但是,在有關自由貿易的問題上,他從一定程度而言是正確的。”
阿爾諾對美國國家安全顧問約翰·博爾頓的觀點表示贊同,認為後者“確實非常專業”,儘管他“不喜歡國際組織”。
https://chinese.aljazeera.net/print/b63d4bc0-5777-43bf-9907-e36f9b930329/90c9b885-8efc-4205-9879-d221690812d7
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