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2010年1月5日星期二

膠狀銀的好壞 觀點

有關膠狀銀引致皮膚變藍灰的問題,之前所搜獲的資料無論說好說壞,相信多是由幕後利益集團發出的,而副作用病例最後的一個更是發生在2004年或之前,而有關相片更是有版權不能貼出,充滿陰謀論味道。
現在找到的這片是近期發生的事(男人己服膠狀銀十多年),亦因而引發下面的討論,暫時留言(經整理分開正反看法)自主而未有利益集團干預,值得借鏡:

Blue man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhlJqqkptHs&feature=related
!!BLUE MAN STILL BLUE ONE YEAR LATER!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgWbKAWlysA&feature=related
The Dangers of Colloidal Silver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk&feature=related
Colloidal Silver Replies on the Blue Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGyORfgxGs4&feature=related
Killin Every Virus Known To Mankind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAkzC8YOkls&feature=related

使用膠狀銀?...umm這個人有咁做和看看發生甚麼事情.
Use colloidal silver?...umm this guy did and look what happened.
Topic started on 30-11-2009
A Guy With Blue Skin 一個有藍色皮膚的男人http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowTUTGOtE0&feature=player_embedded
反方意見:
This video is about a man who uses colloidal silver...what's the problem you ask? well see for yourself. Me personally, I have thought about using this before that is until I saw this and now I don't think I'll be drinking or rubbing any silver at all.
這部影片是講述一個男人使用膠體銀...你問什麼問題?親身看吧。我個人來說,之前我曾想過使用它,直到我看到這片,現在我認為我完全不會喝或揸任何銀。

Overuse of anything will most likely turn out bad, but this... I'd rather not turn blue from using a substance that is supposed to "cure".
I don't even take asprin (except on rare occasion when needed) but this is just craxy!
過度使用任何東西都很可能會變成壞事,但...我不願變藍皆因使用一種應該是“醫治”人的物質。
我什至不服阿司匹林(除非罕有地需要時),但這不是顛的嗎!
My sister used it before taking interferon treatments, but it had no benefit for her whatsoever. She was getting much worse while using it.
我姊妹在用干擾素(治癌藥物)治療前服用它,咁耐以來對她也沒有任何好處,用它後她越來越差。
I don't get it. I have looked up silver and body and stuff but so far what I got in searches were companies trying to sell me stuff to make my body better by buying their silver powder/paste/slush/Yet every page I have seen doesn't give the answer just a bunch of graphs saying "So many people feel better after ...."
我不明白,我已經查過銀和身體及東西,但至目前為止我得搜查所得,都是公司們試圖銷售給我使我身體更好的東,如購買他們的銀粉/膏/潤滑油。然而我所看到的每一頁,並沒給予答案,只得一堆圖說“很多人都覺得更好....後"


正方意見:Take a guess on how many incidences of this have happened over the years?
Anyway, the bluing of the skin does not actually cause any health problems.
Appx 10 incidences over the last 10 years, wow, I wonder how many deaths could be attributed to other drugs.
Colloidal silver is absolutely safe if you get the correct brands and do not go to these folksy places on the net and get their snake oil.
I swear half of those places are set up by big pharma to cause these problems.
想想咁多年來這些事件發生幾多次?

無論如何,皮膚發藍實際上沒有引起任何健康問題。
在過去10年來約10宗事件發生,哇,我懷疑究竟有多少宗死亡可能是由於服用其他藥物。
膠狀銀是絕對安全的,如果你用正確的品牌和不要在網絡上前往這些扮友好的地方買他們蛇油。我發誓有一半那些地方是由大製藥公司設立,用以造成這些問題。
This fellow admittedly over-used the substance.
7000 people die from aspirin every year - only one guy turned purple from using this form of silver, and he liked it.
這傢伙供認過度使用這物質。
每年有7000人死於阿司匹林,-只有一個人使用這種形式的銀變成紫色,而他喜歡它。
Um, this is a product directly marketed to folksy newage people and their websites seem to be the only place that you can even find it. Where do you suggest people go if they want to get reputable colloidal silver?
Um,這是一種產品直接銷售給友好的新紀元人仕,和他們的網站似乎是唯一的地方你可以找到它。你建議人們去那裡如果他們想要這有信譽的膠體銀?
Have you heard of homeopathic doctors?
Colloidal silver concentration is the important thing. You can also make it yourself.

As in all forms of medicine do not use as a preventative. I never take anything but general vitamins for that.
Your immune system is what keeps you healthy. Eat as healthy as you can. The secret is non processed foods. The less processing the better. Fruits, vegetables, whole grains(non bleached and processed), and local grass raised animals for meat if possible. The more vitamins and minerals you get from natural food sources the stronger your immune system.
你有沒聽說過順勢療法的醫生?(註: Argentum Metallicum )
膠體銀濃度是重要的事,您亦可以自製。
正如所有形式的藥物,不要使用它們作為預防性。除普通維他命外,我從來沒有服用任何東西預防。
是你的免疫系統使你健康,儘量吃得健康,秘密是吃非加工食品,越少加工越好。水果,蔬菜,全穀類(非漂白和加工),如果是肉類,可能的話,食用本地草飼動物。愈多的維他命和礦物質從天然食物得來,你的免疫系統會愈強。
This is argyria. Excessive deposits of silver on the skin.
Just like eating excess vegetables with carotenoids can make you orange(although naturally protected from the Sun's UV light).
Users of colloidal silver, better called Ionic Silver claim you can avoid this by using distilled water while making it.
However, the moment a person drinks it, it can combine with stomach acid to produce silver salts, the very reaction being avoided, that is why they emphasize holding under the tongue for as long as possible to absorb.
This guy made his Ionic Silver with water mixed with salt to increase conductivity and speed the process.
True "Colloidal Silver" is one like Mesosilver or Utopia Silver.
It contains the full metal particles often smaller in nanometers than ionic, avoiding the reactions ionic silver suffer.
It is also not for the home user because it is very expensive to make.
Both are useful. Ionic is used for skin wounds and most infections. Colloidal is good to more resistant infections by smaller viruses ionic can't penetrate.
這是argyria。皮膚儲存過多的銀。
就像吃有胡蘿蔔素蔬菜類過多能使你變橙色(儘管自然的保護免受太陽紫外線照親)。
膠體銀(銀離子更好)的使用者聲稱,當製造它時使用蒸餾水,您可以避免這發生。
然而當一個人喝它的那刻,它可以與胃酸結合而生產銀鹽,那種儘量避免的非常反應,這就是為什麼他們強調,吸入前儘可能在舌頭下銜住。
這傢伙又鹽又水去做他的銀離子以增加導電性,但加快那過程。
真正的“膠銀”是一種似Mesosilver或烏托邦銀。
它包含了全金屬微粒,往往是比離子小的納米,從而避免了忍受銀離子反應。
這也不是給家庭用戶的,因為製作非常昂貴。
兩種都很有用,離子是用於皮膚傷口和大多數傳染;膠體是好在更能抵抗更微小的病毒感染而離子卻不能穿透。

Silver is anti biotic - thats why you might use it on skin - maybe acne, or other infection was the reason he used it.
銀是抗生素-這是為什麼你可以用它在皮膚上-也許痤瘡/粉刺,或其他感染是他用它的原因。

I can confirm that there is scientific proof dating back to the 1920s showing antimicrobial properties of colloidal silver.
But you have to skip many websites that just try to grab your money without any product description.
I can also confirm that the claim that "no pathogen can develop resistance to silver" is not entirely true.
There is documented evidence of a strain of Escherichia Coli tolerant to the usual doses of silver.
我可以證實那裡是有可以追溯到20世紀20年代的科學證據,顯示出抗微菌性能的膠體銀。
但你要跳過很多網站,沒有任何產品說明但只試圖搶你的錢。
我亦可肯定,宣稱“比起銀沒有病原體可以開發抗體“並不是完全正確的。
那裡有文件證據,過濾性大腸桿菌頂得住通常劑量的銀。
When I was in boarding school, I broke out in horrible boils due to the re-using of oils for cooking.
I was on anti-biotic medication long periods of time but the boils just kept coming up.
I had two under my one arm, 3 on the same spot on the left knee, one under my but cheek and another on my upper thigh!
My grandmother took me to a heath shop and got me colloidal silver. I drank one teaspoon everyday, and after a week the boils were GONE!
I now use it on pretty much everything from cuts to blemishes, and even if my dogs have wounds. The healing time is amazing.
You only use it when needed, not every day. And you can't take it daily to prevent illness!
Over use, or abuse of anything has consequences...
當我還在寄宿學校,我爆發了可怕的瘡因為烹飪時重複使用熟油。

我用抗生素藥物一段長時間,但瘡只是不斷生出。
我有兩粒瘡在手臂下,3粒在左膝的同一點,一粒在我的面頰下,和另一粒在我的上大腿!
我的祖母帶我到一閻間保健商店,和買膠體銀給我。我每天喝一茶匙,經過一個星期瘡都不見了!
我現在幾常用它,從損至傷疤,和甚至我隻狗的傷口,癒合時間是神奇的。
您只在需要時使用它,而不是每天。和你不能每天用它以預防疾病!
任何東西過量使用或濫用都有後果...
Silver is used in main stream medicine too. The British NHS has started using it for infected wounds and ulcers.

I knew this already, because my father has them for his leg ulcers, but here is evidence to back up.
Silver use in NHS
銀亦有用在主流醫藥了,英國國民保健服務已開始使用它在傷口感染和潰瘍。

我已經知道這,是因為我的父親的腿部潰瘍用它們,這裡有證據支持。
國民保健服務的銀使用:Silver use in NHS
I know a guy who uses this stuff pretty sensibly, and he's fine.
He tells me he never gets colds, and generally feels pretty good.
I've thought of trying it myself, but it's too expensive to buy at the moment.
I heard, or read somewhere that silver is used on laptops because of it's antibacterial properties, so people's grubby mits don't end up infecting other users.
我認識一個人他用這東西幾有理智,他幾好喎。
他告訴我,他從來沒有感冒,和一般感覺良好。
我已經想過自己也試它,但這刻它實在太貴。
我在某處聽到或讀到,銀是用在輕便型電腦上,由於它的抗菌性質,因此人們骯髒的滑鼠最終不會感染其他用戶。
I am not a big alternative medicine kinda guy, but I have used silver for ear infections and sore throats that were getting bad. Each time I used the silver... my earache or sore throat went away. In my experiences with it, it has worked.
And I didn't turn blue.
我不是一個副藥物大傢伙,但我用銀治療變差的耳部感染和喉嚨痛。每次我用銀...我的耳朵痛或喉嚨痛就遠離我,以我的經驗,它有用。
我沒有變成藍色。
Colloidal silver and Marijuana. The 2 miracle cure-alls no one wants you to know about. Keep grasping, big pharma.
膠體銀和大麻, 2種靈丹妙藥都沒有人想你知道。保持理解,大製藥公司。
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread523075/pg1

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2 則留言:

匿名 說...

"" 膠狀銀是絕對安全的,如果你用正確的品牌和不要在網絡上前往這些扮友好的地方買他們蛇油。""
""不要使用它們作為預防性""

The staff of that company which I mentioned, they said they are using it everyday, as I saw, their skin is changing to grey, so, just use it when u need it only.

BTW, I bought a lot ... shit ...

Autumnson 說...

健康緊要D,錢使錢返,唔使勞氣;聽師兄咁講,係咪揾過間或買部機自製好D?
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